Comments on: Transparent, and Not Quite So http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2008/10/transparent-and-not-quite-so/ Ridiculous Pursuits, Solemn Matters Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:10:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2008/10/transparent-and-not-quite-so/comment-page-1/#comment-717 John Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:21:12 +0000 http://johnesimpson.com/blog/?p=1253#comment-717 <a href='#comment-716' rel="nofollow">@cuff</a> - Do you teach (creative) writing? That message has gotta be one of the most difficult ones for young aspiring writers to accept (and for their teachers to imprint them with) -- that they're really not as much in control of the writer-reader transaction as they'd like to be.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('717','John'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('717','John','<a href=\'#comment-716\' rel=\"nofollow\">@cuff<\/a> - Do you teach (creative) writing? \r\n\r\nThat message has gotta be one of the most difficult ones for young aspiring writers to accept (and for their teachers to imprint them with) -- that they\'re really not as much in control of the writer-reader transaction as they\'d like to be.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @cuff – Do you teach (creative) writing?

That message has gotta be one of the most difficult ones for young aspiring writers to accept (and for their teachers to imprint them with) — that they’re really not as much in control of the writer-reader transaction as they’d like to be.

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]]> By: cuff http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2008/10/transparent-and-not-quite-so/comment-page-1/#comment-716 cuff Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:02:35 +0000 http://johnesimpson.com/blog/?p=1253#comment-716 I just had to explain to a student that same thing: authorial intent only takes you so far -- readers poke at it with their own forks.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('716','cuff'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('716','cuff','I just had to explain to a student that same thing: authorial intent only takes you so far -- readers poke at it with their own forks.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I just had to explain to a student that same thing: authorial intent only takes you so far — readers poke at it with their own forks.
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]]> By: John http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2008/10/transparent-and-not-quite-so/comment-page-1/#comment-670 John Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:54:41 +0000 http://johnesimpson.com/blog/?p=1253#comment-670 I love Billy Collins. No idea how he's regarded within either the Creative Writing or Literature camps; I can see that the easy-going, almost apoetical nature of his poetry might cause distrust. But this poem neatly captured for me the frustration of putting just about any sort of creative work "out there." Once you release it -- heck, just a blog entry -- into the wild, it always resists being just what you intended and no more. (It's almost as though the work itself is complicit -- as though it's hidden its meaning from its creator, subverting his/her intentions from the start.)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('670','John'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('670','John','I love Billy Collins. No idea how he\'s regarded within either the Creative Writing or Literature camps; I can see that the easy-going, almost apoetical nature of his poetry might cause distrust. But this poem neatly captured for me the frustration of putting just about any sort of creative work \"out there.\" Once you release it -- heck, just a blog entry -- into the wild, it always resists being just what you intended and no more. (It\'s almost as though the work itself is complicit -- as though it\'s hidden its meaning from its creator, subverting his\/her intentions from the start.)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I love Billy Collins. No idea how he’s regarded within either the Creative Writing or Literature camps; I can see that the easy-going, almost apoetical nature of his poetry might cause distrust. But this poem neatly captured for me the frustration of putting just about any sort of creative work “out there.” Once you release it — heck, just a blog entry — into the wild, it always resists being just what you intended and no more. (It’s almost as though the work itself is complicit — as though it’s hidden its meaning from its creator, subverting his/her intentions from the start.)
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]]> By: cuff http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2008/10/transparent-and-not-quite-so/comment-page-1/#comment-654 cuff Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:42:53 +0000 http://johnesimpson.com/blog/?p=1253#comment-654 "Introduction to Poetry"...very nice. There's the creative and then there's the analytical...I think the divide in English departments between the Creative Writing and the Literature types really breaks down when it hits the aesthetic components -- lit analysis is more about meaning, creative is more about invention, and aesthetics straddles the line.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('654','cuff'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('654','cuff','\"Introduction to Poetry\"...very nice. There\'s the creative and then there\'s the analytical...I think the divide in English departments between the Creative Writing and the Literature types really breaks down when it hits the aesthetic components -- lit analysis is more about meaning, creative is more about invention, and aesthetics straddles the line.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> “Introduction to Poetry”…very nice. There’s the creative and then there’s the analytical…I think the divide in English departments between the Creative Writing and the Literature types really breaks down when it hits the aesthetic components — lit analysis is more about meaning, creative is more about invention, and aesthetics straddles the line.
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