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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jules: Glad you liked it. It seems like it was a good Poetry Friday, huh?

No comment on your wimping out on the challenges. Well, except that one. (And that one. (And...))

marta: Thanks for the good wishes. It was a good and, yes, safe journey to a place in Florida I&#039;d never been to before. (There are a lot of them, to be honest.) I&#039;m not sure where in Florida you used to live; this was Melbourne. A strange mix of wonderful downtown and always-under-construction sprawl.

Sarah: I confess your question brought me up short. Like, &quot;get around&quot;? Which implies to me a sort of skulking thievery in the night.

I pretty much never grab something like a poem which I haven&#039;t seen elsewhere on the Web. Furthermore, I try to honor the poet in ways which other sites often don&#039;t: I look for the original version of the poem to confirm line breaks and line spacing. 

(For instance, &quot;Snow Geese&quot; appears in many places around the Web. In none of them, including &lt;em&gt;whiskey river&lt;/em&lt;&gt;, did I see the line indents as reproduced above; I found them only at the Google Books page which reproduced the poem as originally printed. My guess is that others are pretty much copying-and-pasting as they find the poems.)

For ten years, I&#039;ve been on the Board of Directors of a small, independent, but nationally well-respected poetry press. I&#039;m acutely aware of the dangers of posting poetry on the Web; at our site (where I&#039;m also the Webmaster), we reproduce verbatim one or (usually) more poems of every one of our titles.

Would I be appalled to find any of our poems copy-and-pasted elsewhere? Not at all. Would I feel differently if they were my own poems? Nope. Would I happily remove -- or formally credit, with little &#169; symbol and all -- any poem(s), song lyrics, and so on to whose posting the author objected? You bet I would.

Jules, above, mentioned the Web-wide Poetry Friday series. I&#039;m not a participant in that (although I guess I could be), so I don&#039;t often go to the sites which &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt;. I know that as a rules-following librarian, Jules herself is scrupulous about including copyright information. I completely admire this (as well as many other things) about Jules and her 7-Imp site. But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s strictly necessary, and as I said, I&#039;d be surprised if any poets felt violated by my not doing so at RAMH, of all places. 

I&#039;d love to hear from any I&#039;ve plundered, though, so I can correct the problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules: Glad you liked it. It seems like it was a good Poetry Friday, huh?</p>
<p>No comment on your wimping out on the challenges. Well, except that one. (And that one. (And&#8230;))</p>
<p>marta: Thanks for the good wishes. It was a good and, yes, safe journey to a place in Florida I&#8217;d never been to before. (There are a lot of them, to be honest.) I&#8217;m not sure where in Florida you used to live; this was Melbourne. A strange mix of wonderful downtown and always-under-construction sprawl.</p>
<p>Sarah: I confess your question brought me up short. Like, &#8220;get around&#8221;? Which implies to me a sort of skulking thievery in the night.</p>
<p>I pretty much never grab something like a poem which I haven&#8217;t seen elsewhere on the Web. Furthermore, I try to honor the poet in ways which other sites often don&#8217;t: I look for the original version of the poem to confirm line breaks and line spacing. </p>
<p>(For instance, &#8220;Snow Geese&#8221; appears in many places around the Web. In none of them, including <em>whiskey river</em>, did I see the line indents as reproduced above; I found them only at the Google Books page which reproduced the poem as originally printed. My guess is that others are pretty much copying-and-pasting as they find the poems.)</p>
<p>For ten years, I&#8217;ve been on the Board of Directors of a small, independent, but nationally well-respected poetry press. I&#8217;m acutely aware of the dangers of posting poetry on the Web; at our site (where I&#8217;m also the Webmaster), we reproduce verbatim one or (usually) more poems of every one of our titles.</p>
<p>Would I be appalled to find any of our poems copy-and-pasted elsewhere? Not at all. Would I feel differently if they were my own poems? Nope. Would I happily remove &#8212; or formally credit, with little &copy; symbol and all &#8212; any poem(s), song lyrics, and so on to whose posting the author objected? You bet I would.</p>
<p>Jules, above, mentioned the Web-wide Poetry Friday series. I&#8217;m not a participant in that (although I guess I could be), so I don&#8217;t often go to the sites which <em>are</em>. I know that as a rules-following librarian, Jules herself is scrupulous about including copyright information. I completely admire this (as well as many other things) about Jules and her 7-Imp site. But I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s strictly necessary, and as I said, I&#8217;d be surprised if any poets felt violated by my not doing so at RAMH, of all places. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear from any I&#8217;ve plundered, though, so I can correct the problem!</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
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		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lovely place to end my online evening.  Safe journey wherever you are.</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/going-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-3499</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John- you&#039;ve probably already addressed this somewhere, but how do you get around the whole copyright thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John- you&#8217;ve probably already addressed this somewhere, but how do you get around the whole copyright thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/going-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-3481</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAVE MERCY, you Poetry Friday folks are gonna make me keel over. Such beautiful selections I&#039;m reading today, including EACH AND EVERY one of these. &quot;I saw them
as through the veil, secretly, joyfully, clearly.&quot; Heavy sigh. And that Hirshfield poem? Oh holy crap, I&#039;m wiping away tears. 

Jules, who really wanted to do your six-words challenges, but everything I keep coming up with is too...I dunno...half-glass empty :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAVE MERCY, you Poetry Friday folks are gonna make me keel over. Such beautiful selections I&#8217;m reading today, including EACH AND EVERY one of these. &#8220;I saw them<br />
as through the veil, secretly, joyfully, clearly.&#8221; Heavy sigh. And that Hirshfield poem? Oh holy crap, I&#8217;m wiping away tears. </p>
<p>Jules, who really wanted to do your six-words challenges, but everything I keep coming up with is too&#8230;I dunno&#8230;half-glass empty :)</p>
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