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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marta: Okay, I won&#039;t press the point. :) (Well, except to say that I bet those artists, photographers, and dancers have more in common with you than you may intend!)

kelly: &lt;em&gt;*blush*&lt;/em&gt;

With you on that last point. Actually, one of the most annoying traits I can think of in &lt;em&gt;anybody&lt;/em&gt;, writer/blogger or otherwise, is self-unawareness. Leads to all kinds of trouble. (Although there&#039;s such a thing as being TOO self-aware.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marta: Okay, I won&#8217;t press the point. :) (Well, except to say that I bet those artists, photographers, and dancers have more in common with you than you may intend!)</p>
<p>kelly: <em>*blush*</em></p>
<p>With you on that last point. Actually, one of the most annoying traits I can think of in <em>anybody</em>, writer/blogger or otherwise, is self-unawareness. Leads to all kinds of trouble. (Although there&#8217;s such a thing as being TOO self-aware.)</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-4052</link>
		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may very well be the damn most interesting post I have ever read on a blog. 

Everyone jacks their family memebers, the guy with  the thick black turtle-neck and dandruff trying too hard on a date at Starbucks of all places, their lovers, their exes, the neighbor who walks her dog with saggy panty-hose, into their stories. If forced everyone to shake out these stolen characters from their pockets, we would all be exposed. 

The worst writing, and I see this a great deal on blogs, is when the writer writes themselves as fiction that has no capacity to reflect on real flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may very well be the damn most interesting post I have ever read on a blog. </p>
<p>Everyone jacks their family memebers, the guy with  the thick black turtle-neck and dandruff trying too hard on a date at Starbucks of all places, their lovers, their exes, the neighbor who walks her dog with saggy panty-hose, into their stories. If forced everyone to shake out these stolen characters from their pockets, we would all be exposed. </p>
<p>The worst writing, and I see this a great deal on blogs, is when the writer writes themselves as fiction that has no capacity to reflect on real flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-3989</link>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far I&#039;ve tried to avoid using a writer as a character--makes me feel too self-conscious.  But I do like to write about artists, photographers, and dancers.  They&#039;re my writer-characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far I&#8217;ve tried to avoid using a writer as a character&#8211;makes me feel too self-conscious.  But I do like to write about artists, photographers, and dancers.  They&#8217;re my writer-characters.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-3967</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marta: But can you imagine writing a storyline in which a writer puts in an appearance? It needn&#039;t even be &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;, as you -- it&#039;s hard to imagine the character&#039;s nature (and work habits, etc.) not being informed by what you&#039;ve gone through in writing.

(Good luck with the synopsis.)

Eileen: Using yourself as &quot;filler&quot; -- bet that&#039;s an experience familiar to a lot, I mean a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of writers, writing about writers or not.

How do you feel about the notion of &quot;composite [or representative] characters&quot; in what is otherwise understood to be journalism? Haven&#039;t heard much about it recently, but it used to be a controversial topic. I think a Washington Post reporter had won a Major Award (presumably not a giant leg lamp) for a series profiling the life of a drug addict, something like that, and it came out that there was no REAL person profiled -- the addict was really (as you say) an amalgam, presumably reasonable, of several addicts the reported had followed and interviewed.

Jules: Personality tests. Meyers-Briggs and so on. (Thank you for not mentioning Facebook&#039;s &quot;Which Supreme Court justice are you?&quot;-style quizzes.) You&#039;re right: NO ONE would be nearly as interested in those things if they just told us about somebody else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marta: But can you imagine writing a storyline in which a writer puts in an appearance? It needn&#8217;t even be <em>you</em>, as you &#8212; it&#8217;s hard to imagine the character&#8217;s nature (and work habits, etc.) not being informed by what you&#8217;ve gone through in writing.</p>
<p>(Good luck with the synopsis.)</p>
<p>Eileen: Using yourself as &#8220;filler&#8221; &#8212; bet that&#8217;s an experience familiar to a lot, I mean a <em>lot</em> of writers, writing about writers or not.</p>
<p>How do you feel about the notion of &#8220;composite [or representative] characters&#8221; in what is otherwise understood to be journalism? Haven&#8217;t heard much about it recently, but it used to be a controversial topic. I think a Washington Post reporter had won a Major Award (presumably not a giant leg lamp) for a series profiling the life of a drug addict, something like that, and it came out that there was no REAL person profiled &#8212; the addict was really (as you say) an amalgam, presumably reasonable, of several addicts the reported had followed and interviewed.</p>
<p>Jules: Personality tests. Meyers-Briggs and so on. (Thank you for not mentioning Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;Which Supreme Court justice are you?&#8221;-style quizzes.) You&#8217;re right: NO ONE would be nearly as interested in those things if they just told us about somebody else!</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-3950</link>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that it is good to be overly fascinated with oneself, but the flip of that is to be bored.  And if you can&#039;t find something interesting within you, why should anyone else?

And maybe facebook and the like is not just being fascinated--it&#039;s being fascinated and needing to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it is good to be overly fascinated with oneself, but the flip of that is to be bored.  And if you can&#8217;t find something interesting within you, why should anyone else?</p>
<p>And maybe facebook and the like is not just being fascinated&#8211;it&#8217;s being fascinated and needing to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/03/paying-attention-to-what-it-means-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-3945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, thanks. Looking forward to reading that (when children aren&#039;t jumping around me). 

Yes, we do fascinate ourselves. There&#039;s no more proof of that now than Facebook, right, with all those My Five Favorite Books/Shows/Etc. and the ever-popular (but waning?) 25-Things thing. Don&#039;t all of us just love to take personality tests, too? Meyers-Brigg and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, thanks. Looking forward to reading that (when children aren&#8217;t jumping around me). </p>
<p>Yes, we do fascinate ourselves. There&#8217;s no more proof of that now than Facebook, right, with all those My Five Favorite Books/Shows/Etc. and the ever-popular (but waning?) 25-Things thing. Don&#8217;t all of us just love to take personality tests, too? Meyers-Brigg and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the opening, but regarding everything else you said:  I find myself constantly in my fiction.  Not as meta-fiction (writer writing about writer writing) but as the filler.  Any time I have a &quot;gap&quot; in a character I plug myself in.  It&#039;s a dangerous trait because I make awkward and often not logical amalgams.  

In non-fiction/memoir, it&#039;s clearer for me.  The &quot;I&quot; is me and everyone else is renamed, and mushed together unless they&#039;re very very very important.  Several people appear as the same  &quot;character&quot; because the reader won&#039;t tolerate on the page the same pantheon of friends, acquaintances, coworkers and assorted family members as they will gladly gossip about in real life.

Either way, it&#039;s fun mushing people together like playdough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the opening, but regarding everything else you said:  I find myself constantly in my fiction.  Not as meta-fiction (writer writing about writer writing) but as the filler.  Any time I have a &#8220;gap&#8221; in a character I plug myself in.  It&#8217;s a dangerous trait because I make awkward and often not logical amalgams.  </p>
<p>In non-fiction/memoir, it&#8217;s clearer for me.  The &#8220;I&#8221; is me and everyone else is renamed, and mushed together unless they&#8217;re very very very important.  Several people appear as the same  &#8220;character&#8221; because the reader won&#8217;t tolerate on the page the same pantheon of friends, acquaintances, coworkers and assorted family members as they will gladly gossip about in real life.</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s fun mushing people together like playdough.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
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		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always in my blog--I don&#039;t think I could stand myself in my fiction.  

I&#039;m working on my synopsis now (on a real hard part which is why I&#039;m over here commenting) or I&#039;d read and say more.  But I&#039;ll be back later to procrastinate more and then I&#039;ll try to work how much of you I find left in the corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always in my blog&#8211;I don&#8217;t think I could stand myself in my fiction.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on my synopsis now (on a real hard part which is why I&#8217;m over here commenting) or I&#8217;d read and say more.  But I&#8217;ll be back later to procrastinate more and then I&#8217;ll try to work how much of you I find left in the corner.</p>
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