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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11775</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Froog:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;m greatly conflicted by that tidying-up habit. The only reason I do it -- and in telling you, I&#039;m not trying to make myself appear, y&#039;know, &lt;em&gt;noble&lt;/em&gt; (I doubt you&#039;d be fooled!) -- is to help out commenters. But there&#039;s a school of thought (which I also sympathize with) that says tampering with someone else&#039;s reality, for any reason, ought to be off-limits.

A relatively recent trend in journalism is NOT to clean up direct quotations from interview subjects, because the interviewer wants to represent accurately the interviewee&#039;s personality, rhythms of speech, and so on. At the other extreme is the old-fashioned &quot;Make the oafish athlete sound like a doctoral candidate&quot; approach. I tend to keep hands off, although sometimes it&#039;s tempting to try to tart up a commenter&#039;s product. :)

You&#039;re right about Wordpress-vs-Blogger in that respect. In a way, Blogger&#039;s letting you delete your own comments is a dangerous feature -- because there&#039;s no way for Blogger to guarantee that the &quot;you&quot; deleting your comment is, in fact, &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;. More problematic to me is that there&#039;s no built-in facility to revise a comment before posting. (The blog admin can install any of various Wordpress plugins to enable that, but I get really nervous about adding too many plugins -- there&#039;s almost no way to be sure they&#039;re all playing nicely together.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Froog:</strong> I&#8217;m greatly conflicted by that tidying-up habit. The only reason I do it &#8212; and in telling you, I&#8217;m not trying to make myself appear, y&#8217;know, <em>noble</em> (I doubt you&#8217;d be fooled!) &#8212; is to help out commenters. But there&#8217;s a school of thought (which I also sympathize with) that says tampering with someone else&#8217;s reality, for any reason, ought to be off-limits.</p>
<p>A relatively recent trend in journalism is NOT to clean up direct quotations from interview subjects, because the interviewer wants to represent accurately the interviewee&#8217;s personality, rhythms of speech, and so on. At the other extreme is the old-fashioned &#8220;Make the oafish athlete sound like a doctoral candidate&#8221; approach. I tend to keep hands off, although sometimes it&#8217;s tempting to try to tart up a commenter&#8217;s product. :)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about WordPress-vs-Blogger in that respect. In a way, Blogger&#8217;s letting you delete your own comments is a dangerous feature &#8212; because there&#8217;s no way for Blogger to guarantee that the &#8220;you&#8221; deleting your comment is, in fact, <em>you</em>. More problematic to me is that there&#8217;s no built-in facility to revise a comment before posting. (The blog admin can install any of various WordPress plugins to enable that, but I get really nervous about adding too many plugins &#8212; there&#8217;s almost no way to be sure they&#8217;re all playing nicely together.)</p>
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		<title>By: Froog</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11765</link>
		<dc:creator>Froog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JES.

I had thought of  doing it myself, but wasn&#039;t sure if you&#039;d seen it yet; I didn&#039;t want to confuse you if you&#039;d been offline for a few days and suddenly found your comment folder filled with duplicate anecdotes from me!  

I thought it would be a snip to sort out for an IT-whizz like you.  And you do seem to bustle around quite often tidying up the comment threads with a proprietorial pride.  Sorry if it wasn&#039;t as straightforward as I had supposed - but I thought you would actually &lt;i&gt;prefer&lt;/i&gt; to do it yourself... with all of that fussy attention to detail like replicating the original timestamp!

(And I&#039;ve only just noticed, but.... you can&#039;t delete your own comments here?  Is that the one superior facility that Blogger boasts over Wordpress??)

And what is a &lt;b&gt;BECKENSTEIN slice&lt;/b&gt;?  A technique in pathology, perhaps?  Yet another ReCaptcha conundrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JES.</p>
<p>I had thought of  doing it myself, but wasn&#8217;t sure if you&#8217;d seen it yet; I didn&#8217;t want to confuse you if you&#8217;d been offline for a few days and suddenly found your comment folder filled with duplicate anecdotes from me!  </p>
<p>I thought it would be a snip to sort out for an IT-whizz like you.  And you do seem to bustle around quite often tidying up the comment threads with a proprietorial pride.  Sorry if it wasn&#8217;t as straightforward as I had supposed &#8211; but I thought you would actually <i>prefer</i> to do it yourself&#8230; with all of that fussy attention to detail like replicating the original timestamp!</p>
<p>(And I&#8217;ve only just noticed, but&#8230;. you can&#8217;t delete your own comments here?  Is that the one superior facility that Blogger boasts over WordPress??)</p>
<p>And what is a <b>BECKENSTEIN slice</b>?  A technique in pathology, perhaps?  Yet another ReCaptcha conundrum.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11750</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Darc:&lt;/strong&gt; Alas, it feels like I had more zemblanity than serendipity over the weekend. The good thing about most weekends (weekdays too, for that matter) -- until the final one -- is that you always get do-overs. ;)

(I really shouldn&#039;t tempt the gods of zemblanity with assertions like that.)

&lt;strong&gt;marta:&lt;/strong&gt; The only problem with using a brand-new word, especially one not formed from one or more existing, familiar words, is that you&#039;ve pretty much got to repeat the definition every time you use the word. Or just drop the word into context, undefined, and trust the reader/listener to do some research and/or figure it out via context. 

Readers/Listeners who can be trusted that far are probably the exception!

&lt;strong&gt;Froog:&lt;/strong&gt; If Boyd had even imagined such a pun on the word, his embarrassment might well have prevented us from ever learning the word. I myself am always happy to find someone &lt;em&gt;un&lt;/em&gt;embarrassed by godawful puns, though. (Even erudite godawful ones. Heh.)

[Moved that misplaced comment for you, btw. Not something I&#039;d want to do every day, but at least now I know it&#039;s possible!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Darc:</strong> Alas, it feels like I had more zemblanity than serendipity over the weekend. The good thing about most weekends (weekdays too, for that matter) &#8212; until the final one &#8212; is that you always get do-overs. ;)</p>
<p>(I really shouldn&#8217;t tempt the gods of zemblanity with assertions like that.)</p>
<p><strong>marta:</strong> The only problem with using a brand-new word, especially one not formed from one or more existing, familiar words, is that you&#8217;ve pretty much got to repeat the definition every time you use the word. Or just drop the word into context, undefined, and trust the reader/listener to do some research and/or figure it out via context. </p>
<p>Readers/Listeners who can be trusted that far are probably the exception!</p>
<p><strong>Froog:</strong> If Boyd had even imagined such a pun on the word, his embarrassment might well have prevented us from ever learning the word. I myself am always happy to find someone <em>un</em>embarrassed by godawful puns, though. (Even erudite godawful ones. Heh.)</p>
<p>[Moved that misplaced comment for you, btw. Not something I'd want to do every day, but at least now I know it's possible!]</p>
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		<title>By: Froog</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11721</link>
		<dc:creator>Froog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, late night posting!  Apologies - the first of the above was, of course, meant to have been posted under your &lt;/i&gt;Boyish Prankery&lt;/i&gt; piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, late night posting!  Apologies &#8211; the first of the above was, of course, meant to have been posted under your Boyish Prankery piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Froog</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11715</link>
		<dc:creator>Froog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beeb made a TV movie of &lt;i&gt;Armadillo&lt;/i&gt; about 10 years ago.  Fairly diverting - although I imagine it missed out on a lot of the textures of the book.  I don&#039;t remember the Zembla thing from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beeb made a TV movie of <i>Armadillo</i> about 10 years ago.  Fairly diverting &#8211; although I imagine it missed out on a lot of the textures of the book.  I don&#8217;t remember the Zembla thing from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Froog</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11714</link>
		<dc:creator>Froog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the by, I bet William Boyd was thinking - well, subconsciously, anyway - of a &lt;i&gt;Prisoner of Zembla&lt;/i&gt; pun when he coined this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the by, I bet William Boyd was thinking &#8211; well, subconsciously, anyway &#8211; of a <i>Prisoner of Zembla</i> pun when he coined this.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11707</link>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zemblanity.

That&#039;s a word I&#039;m going to love.

recaptcha: this fathomed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zemblanity.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a word I&#8217;m going to love.</p>
<p>recaptcha: this fathomed</p>
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		<title>By: DarcKnyt</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2009/12/discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-11675</link>
		<dc:creator>DarcKnyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are not men, they are Devo. An interesting band. I never loved them nor hated them, but they just keep hanging around. Zemblanitously for me, I guess. ;)

Hope your weekend is one of serendipity and not zemblanity, J. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not men, they are Devo. An interesting band. I never loved them nor hated them, but they just keep hanging around. Zemblanitously for me, I guess. ;)</p>
<p>Hope your weekend is one of serendipity and not zemblanity, J. :)</p>
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