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		<title>By: Midweek Music Break: Haunting Songs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midweek Music Break: Haunting Songs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] haunting. (There&#8217;s one, &#8220;The Mystic&#8217;s Dream,&#8221; included at the foot of this post.) Maybe it&#8217;s got something to do with minor keys or blue notes (possibilities I&#8217;d [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] haunting. (There&#8217;s one, &#8220;The Mystic&#8217;s Dream,&#8221; included at the foot of this post.) Maybe it&#8217;s got something to do with minor keys or blue notes (possibilities I&#8217;d [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squirrel: Wasn&#039;t that a great bit -- the Grecian Temples one? I loved the way it, well, the way it &lt;em&gt;oscillates&lt;/em&gt; (if that makes any sense) -- not in terms of its rhythms but it terms of its subjects.

Froog: Well, thank you very much for introducing me to Vasco Popa (I think I know which of your blogs might have featured that one in particular). It sent me off into a Google-threshing frenzy I still haven&#039;t recovered from but found very rewarding!

&quot;Jelling&quot; is probably an Americanized form of &quot;gelling,&quot; meaning something like &lt;em&gt;congealing&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;turning to jelly form from liquid&lt;/em&gt;. On the other hand, a quick toggle into the vast maw of the Web yields the information that capital-J &lt;em&gt;Jelling&lt;/em&gt; is (per Wikipedia) &quot;a village situated in Vejle municipality, Denmark on the Jutland peninsula.&quot; 

Whatever else this village might be noteworthy for, it&#039;s the site of the so-called Jelling Runes, or Jelling Stones. They appear to have no major mythological or historical significance -- more or less monuments to individuals, such as a king&#039;s wife. But it did make wish that my own little hometown had thought to erect such monuments: maybe in eleven centuries maybe it would have the equivalent of Jelling&#039;s Wikipedia entry.

Jules: Yeah -- I loved the Bilgere thing, too, although there didn&#039;t seem to be a ton of information about him on the Web. I saw somewhere that Billy Collins had endorsed his work; this makes complete sense to me, based on this one sample!

In college, for a fantasy/SF course I read and really liked Updike&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Centaur&lt;/em&gt;. One of the things which fascinated me most about it (going on memory here; please forgive if I&#039;m misrepresenting it) was the way in which the 20th-century protagonist, by book&#039;s end, had merged almost to the point of identity with the mythological creature of the title. 

(My reCaptcha word pair of the moment: the almost unforgivably hilarious &lt;em&gt;Mr Doritos&lt;/em&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squirrel: Wasn&#8217;t that a great bit &#8212; the Grecian Temples one? I loved the way it, well, the way it <em>oscillates</em> (if that makes any sense) &#8212; not in terms of its rhythms but it terms of its subjects.</p>
<p>Froog: Well, thank you very much for introducing me to Vasco Popa (I think I know which of your blogs might have featured that one in particular). It sent me off into a Google-threshing frenzy I still haven&#8217;t recovered from but found very rewarding!</p>
<p>&#8220;Jelling&#8221; is probably an Americanized form of &#8220;gelling,&#8221; meaning something like <em>congealing</em> or <em>turning to jelly form from liquid</em>. On the other hand, a quick toggle into the vast maw of the Web yields the information that capital-J <em>Jelling</em> is (per Wikipedia) &#8220;a village situated in Vejle municipality, Denmark on the Jutland peninsula.&#8221; </p>
<p>Whatever else this village might be noteworthy for, it&#8217;s the site of the so-called Jelling Runes, or Jelling Stones. They appear to have no major mythological or historical significance &#8212; more or less monuments to individuals, such as a king&#8217;s wife. But it did make wish that my own little hometown had thought to erect such monuments: maybe in eleven centuries maybe it would have the equivalent of Jelling&#8217;s Wikipedia entry.</p>
<p>Jules: Yeah &#8212; I loved the Bilgere thing, too, although there didn&#8217;t seem to be a ton of information about him on the Web. I saw somewhere that Billy Collins had endorsed his work; this makes complete sense to me, based on this one sample!</p>
<p>In college, for a fantasy/SF course I read and really liked Updike&#8217;s <em>The Centaur</em>. One of the things which fascinated me most about it (going on memory here; please forgive if I&#8217;m misrepresenting it) was the way in which the 20th-century protagonist, by book&#8217;s end, had merged almost to the point of identity with the mythological creature of the title. </p>
<p>(My reCaptcha word pair of the moment: the almost unforgivably hilarious <em>Mr Doritos</em>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://johnesimpson.com/blog/2010/02/the-gods-beside-us-and-in-our-mirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-13418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now, that Bilgere poem is something else. 

I came here too early on Friday morning and saw no Poetry Friday post. I should have known you&#039;d show up later, lucky for all of us. 

I keep re-reading that Lawrence quote, too. This fits in nicely (for me anyway) with the Greek-gods theme we&#039;ve currently got going on in our Danielson &quot;Sunday school,&quot; you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now, that Bilgere poem is something else. </p>
<p>I came here too early on Friday morning and saw no Poetry Friday post. I should have known you&#8217;d show up later, lucky for all of us. </p>
<p>I keep re-reading that Lawrence quote, too. This fits in nicely (for me anyway) with the Greek-gods theme we&#8217;ve currently got going on in our Danielson &#8220;Sunday school,&#8221; you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Froog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Froog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reminded (amongst many other things) of this, which I posted ages ago on one of my blogs.  I suspect you might like this guy Popa, JES - if  you don&#039;t know him already.  Useful, you know, if you ever get asked that &quot;So who&#039;s your favourite &lt;i&gt;Croatian&lt;/i&gt; writer?&quot;  question.

&lt;b&gt;The Beautiful God-Hater&lt;/b&gt;

A regular customer in a local bar
Waves his empty sleeve,
Fulminates from his undisciplined beard:
We&#039;ve buried the gods
And now it&#039;s the turn of the dummies
Who are playing at gods.
The regular is hidden in tobacco clouds
Illuminated by his own words
Hewn from an oak trunk;
He is as beautiful as a god
Dug up recently nearby.

Vasco Popa (tr. from the Serbo-Croat by Anthony Weir) 


And the D.H. Lawrence put me in mind of this line from the Portugese writer Fernando Pessoa: &lt;b&gt;&quot;In every corner of myself I erect an altar to a different god.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

(Oh, and my first attempt to send this somehow went astray.  But at least that brought me the inspired second ReCaptcha &lt;b&gt;delegates jelling&lt;/b&gt;.  Is &#039;jellling&#039; really a word??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reminded (amongst many other things) of this, which I posted ages ago on one of my blogs.  I suspect you might like this guy Popa, JES &#8211; if  you don&#8217;t know him already.  Useful, you know, if you ever get asked that &#8220;So who&#8217;s your favourite <i>Croatian</i> writer?&#8221;  question.</p>
<p><b>The Beautiful God-Hater</b></p>
<p>A regular customer in a local bar<br />
Waves his empty sleeve,<br />
Fulminates from his undisciplined beard:<br />
We&#8217;ve buried the gods<br />
And now it&#8217;s the turn of the dummies<br />
Who are playing at gods.<br />
The regular is hidden in tobacco clouds<br />
Illuminated by his own words<br />
Hewn from an oak trunk;<br />
He is as beautiful as a god<br />
Dug up recently nearby.</p>
<p>Vasco Popa (tr. from the Serbo-Croat by Anthony Weir) </p>
<p>And the D.H. Lawrence put me in mind of this line from the Portugese writer Fernando Pessoa: <b>&#8220;In every corner of myself I erect an altar to a different god.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>(Oh, and my first attempt to send this somehow went astray.  But at least that brought me the inspired second ReCaptcha <b>delegates jelling</b>.  Is &#8216;jellling&#8217; really a word??)</p>
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		<title>By: The Querulous Squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Querulous Squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Grecian Temples story is hilarious and I love that song, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grecian Temples story is hilarious and I love that song, too.</p>
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