{"id":9781,"date":"2012-02-04T14:49:24","date_gmt":"2012-02-04T19:49:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/?p=9781"},"modified":"2012-02-06T17:00:59","modified_gmt":"2012-02-06T22:00:59","slug":"the-fifteen-movie-meme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/the-fifteen-movie-meme\/","title":{"rendered":"The Fifteen Movie Meme"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In <a title=\"Earlier RAMH post: 'Answers in Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear'\" href=\"https:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/answers-in-mirror-are-closer-than-they-appear\/\" target=\"_blank\">yesterday&#8217;s post<\/a> ruminating about questions whose answers (at least in theory) may be more obvious than they first seem, I included a fifteen-point &#8220;meme&#8221; about movies; I didn&#8217;t actually respond to the meme there. In a comment, Jules asked what my choices would have been.<\/p>\n<p>Here y&#8217;go.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>1. Movie you love with a passion<\/h3>\n<p>&#8220;Passion&#8221;? Oh, my. Ha ha. You must be thinking of someone else. And <em>the one<\/em>\u00a0movie?!?<\/p>\n<p>Asked to name my &#8220;favorite movie,&#8221; I usually say <em>Citizen Kane<\/em>. But that&#8217;s not really what this question asks; I&#8217;ve seen <em>Kane<\/em>\u00a0enough times, and read and talked about it enough, that my soul was long ago pretty much drained of all <em>passion<\/em>\u00a0for it. But to love a movie with a passion, I believe, one would have to (a) own a copy of it, and watch it periodically, and\/or (b) seldom (if ever) click past it when it shows up on TV or a local movie screen, and\/or (c) love watching it <em>beyond reason<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Well, let me put it this way &#8212; off the top of my head it would probably be one of the following (in no order to speak of):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Pulp Fiction<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Alien<\/em>\u00a0(preferably on a bill with <em>Aliens<\/em>)<\/li>\n<li><em>The Matrix<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Bringing Up Baby<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>My Fair Lady<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>The Wizard of Oz<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>The Big Lebowski<\/em>&#8230;\u00a0no, wait, <em>Blood Simple<\/em>. Or maybe &#8212; well, you get the idea.<\/li>\n<li><em>Stop Making Sense<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Any of the <em>Lord of the Rings<\/em>\u00a0trilogy (especially the first or third installments)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If I took this quiz next week, my choices might be entirely different.<\/p>\n<h3>2. Movie you vow to never watch<\/h3>\n<p>Gus Van Sant&#8217;s 1998\u00a0<em>Psycho<\/em>\u00a0remake. I mean, I understand the notion of <em>homage<\/em>. I understand the appeal of tinkering with something already done, given new information, or new technology, or&#8230; or whatever. But for a director with a lively, wide-ranging intellect (and the resources to act on it, and an audience willing to go with him in pretty much any direction) &#8212; for such a director to undertake a (nearly) shot-for-shot remake of a film with a history and a cultural context like <em>Psycho<\/em>&#8216;s, well: nuts to that. What a waste.<\/p>\n<h3>3. Movie that literally left you speechless<\/h3>\n<p><em>Bad Lieutenant<\/em>. And we&#8217;re not talking speechlessly <em>glad<\/em>\u00a0to have seen it, either. Probably the single most repellent film I&#8217;ve ever seen; I couldn&#8217;t even finish it, and that&#8217;s saying something. On the upside, I&#8217;d only rented it, so didn&#8217;t have to embarrass myself by walking out of a theater.<\/p>\n<h3>4. Movie you always recommend<\/h3>\n<p>Another tough question, at least not without knowing the context; are you looking for a tearjerker, a laughfest, a film to curdle the blood or break the heart, a film that needs to be seen just, like, because you &#8220;should&#8221; see this film?<\/p>\n<p>If not allowed to qualify the answer, though, and just aiming to satisfy <em>anyone<\/em>, it would probably be <em>Young Frankenstein<\/em>. Or <em>The Princess Bride<\/em>.<\/p>\n<h3>5. Actor\/actress you always watch, no matter how crappy the movie<\/h3>\n<p><a title=\"Early RAMH post: 'Has John Cusack Ever Made a Bad Movie?'\" href=\"https:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/has-john-cusack-ever-made-a-bad-movie\/\" target=\"_blank\">John Cusack<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>6. Actor\/actress you don\u2019t get the appeal of<\/h3>\n<p>Huh. Uh&#8230; I will say that I&#8217;d been hearing about Uma Thurman&#8217;s great beauty before I ever saw her myself &#8212; and was pretty baffled when I <em>did<\/em>\u00a0see her (I think on a talk show). She grew on me, though. (Although I still think her beauty, if that&#8217;s even the right word, is highly unconventional.)<\/p>\n<p>This question&#8217;s difficulty bothered me, so I actually read down Wikipedia&#8217;s list of names in the &#8220;20th century actors&#8221; category (which starts <a title=\"Wikipedia: '20th century actors' category\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Category:20th-century_actors\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) &#8212; trying to find someone who made me shake my head in wonder that anyone else cared much about him or her. The candidates which jumped off the screen at me can easily be explained, I think, by generational differences of taste. The classic example, for me: Adam Sandler. I look at him and he seems fogged with question marks. But I know a good number of people who think he&#8217;s hilarious.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, the cast of the <em>Twilight<\/em>\u00a0films mostly leaves me cold. (The actress who plays Alice Cullen, though&#8230; uh&#8230; oh, there she is: <a title=\"Wikipedia, on Ashley Greene\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Category:20th-century_actors\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Greene<\/a>. <em>Her<\/em>\u00a0I find appealing.)<\/p>\n<p>But again, I assume my judgment is clouded simply by changing tastes in what makes an actor or actress &#8220;appealing&#8221; in the first place. (Among &#8220;old Hollywood&#8221; actors, for instance, I&#8217;ve never gotten either Greer Garson or Tyrone Power.)<\/p>\n<h3>7. Actor\/actress, living or dead, you\u2019d love to meet<\/h3>\n<p>Cusack again. And Alec Guinness. And Jeff Bridges.<\/p>\n<p>Actresses, forget it: aside from, oh, say, Tina Fey and\u00a0Janeane Garofalo &#8212; those whose whole personae are built of informality &#8212; I&#8217;d probably be too tongue-tied to make much of the meeting. (<a title=\"Comment to an earlier RAMH post, documenting my immobility around Ms. Weaver\" href=\"https:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/2009\/06\/wild\/comment-page-1\/#comment-6868\" target=\"_blank\">I&#8217;ve already blown my chance<\/a> for simple, innocent conversation with Sigourney Weaver.)<\/p>\n<p>Now that I&#8217;m thinking about it, though: <del datetime=\"2012-02-06T21:59:53+00:00\">Kate<\/del> Cate Blanchett seems like an actress who&#8217;d put me at ease soon enough for me to get past the initial stammer-and-turn-red phase.<\/p>\n<h3>8. Sexiest actor\/actress you\u2019ve seen<\/h3>\n<p>Oh, man. Rachel Ward. And I haven&#8217;t seen even <em>many<\/em> of her films, let alone all of them. But in <em>After Dark, My Sweet<\/em>, and some others from around then\u00a0&#8212; oh yeah. <em>That<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1SZr7z8Pwrw?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"600\" height=\"407\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>9. Dream cast<\/h3>\n<p>This ought to be the most fun, right? So why did I save answering it until last, yet still have so much trouble coming up with an answer???<\/p>\n<p>Hmm&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to play the &#8220;put the cast in a time machine and shake it up&#8221; game, so we get to cross decades in our casting decisions. This would let me match up Cusack, say, with a formidable maneater like Louise Brooks. Or put Orson Welles as a young man into a dark, brooding action film with Leonardo DiCaprio. I wish Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft had been able to work together again after <em>The Graduate<\/em>.<\/p>\n<h3>10. Favorite actor pairing<\/h3>\n<p>I guess this means actual pairings, right? As opposed to anything in the &#8220;dream cast&#8221; category of question <a rel=\"tag\" class=\"hashtag u-tag u-category\" href=\"https:\/\/johnesimpson.com\/blog\/tag\/9\/\">#9<\/a>? My initial vote went to Paul Newman and Robert Redford. They could&#8217;ve made another three or four movies as far as I was concerned. But <del datetime=\"2012-02-06T21:59:53+00:00\">Katherine<\/del> Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant were pretty darned fun to watch, too&#8230; Oh, whoops, also Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan.<\/p>\n<h3>11. Favorite movie setting<\/h3>\n<p>Probably The Shire, in the <em>Lord of the Rings<\/em>\u00a0films.<\/p>\n<h3>12. Favorite decade for movies<\/h3>\n<p>The &#8217;70s. I mean, <a title=\"Wikipedia, on the 1970s in film\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1970s_in_film\" target=\"_blank\">come on<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m skeptical of this question, though. Prior to the 1970s, my movie-going was pretty much a matter of someone else&#8217;s (or a group&#8217;s) decision. In the &#8217;70s, I suddenly got a sense of what I&#8217;d maybe been missing. And <em>after<\/em>\u00a0the &#8217;70s, I never again got the same thrilling sense of discovery. So I&#8217;m prepared to believe it&#8217;s just another of those generational-taste questions.<\/p>\n<h3>13. Chick flick or action movie?<\/h3>\n<p>Action movies. Sorry. They speak to the caveman in me. Anything featuring Jason Statham, for instance, seems <em>waaaaay<\/em>\u00a0more entertaining to me than it may actually <em>be<\/em>, considered objectively.<\/p>\n<h3>14. Hero, villain or anti-hero?<\/h3>\n<p>Probably anti-hero. As in &#8212; often &#8212; &#8220;tortured&#8221; hero. Most of the Batman depictions, for instance, appeal to me much more than the Superman incarnations. Han Solo rather than Luke Skywalker (or Darth Vader, for that matter). Much as I liked Tom Hanks in his Meg Ryan pairings, I much preferred him in <em>Castaway<\/em>, <em>Saving Private Ryan<\/em>, and\u00a0<em>Road\u00a0to Perdition<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, Annette Bening&#8217;s had an interesting range of roles. But the ones where she plays a simple love interest just don&#8217;t stack up to those in which she&#8217;s got an <em>edge<\/em>. Her turn in <em>The Grifters<\/em>, for instance. Or &#8212; yes &#8212; in <em>American Beauty<\/em>.<\/p>\n<h3>15. Black and white or color?<\/h3>\n<p>When I was doing photography of my own &#8212; print photography, I mean, not digital &#8212; I mostly used black-and-white film. I loved the challenge of finding and framing and lighting the perfect subject, <em>just right<\/em>, without being able to artificially boost its appeal\u00a0simply by tinkering with, y&#8217;know, chromatic tricks. I kind of feel the same way about black-and-white vs. color cinematography.<\/p>\n<p>Color films I&#8217;ve really liked tend to be those which don&#8217;t use a <em>lot<\/em>\u00a0of color, arbitrarily. For instance, I love the muted look of <em>The Godfather<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">____________________<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s it for me. (Although I may revisit to insert more videos, maybe some stills and so on.)<\/p>\n<p>Your turn!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update (2012-02-05):<\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, I know &#8212; and meant to mention &#8212; this isn&#8217;t really a &#8220;fifteen movie\u00a0meme&#8221;; more like a &#8220;fifteen-point movie meme.&#8221; For what it&#8217;s worth, it actually mentions about a couple dozen by name (depending on how you want to count references to multi-film series) &#8212; not counting the Van Sant <em>Psycho<\/em>\u00a0and <em>Bad Lieutenant<\/em>, obviously. :)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In yesterday&#8217;s post ruminating about questions whose answers (at least in theory) may be more obvious than they first seem, I included a fifteen-point &#8220;meme&#8221; about movies; I didn&#8217;t actually respond to the meme there. In a comment, Jules asked what my choices would have been. 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